this evening’s conversations are still rolling out at our place, natalie. i just heard an interview with james livingston (author of “against thrift”) on doug henwood’s radio show, ‘behind the news’. james spoke of the fetishism of production + making. he related it to hegelian, marxist + protestant traditions where identity + self- value are only established in relationship to work – to making. that yes, there’s something about the production of an object that is related to the production of the self, but we also come to know ourselves and others in precisely the same way as we obtain and use goods. a nice extension of the bridge b/t design and making re: heath. so community retail/local watering holes, etc. i appreciate the ways you bring community into not just AC’s production, but also in the ways AC sells its goods and creates community of people who wear your clothing, use your books to make their own, etc. speaks to making but also radically kinder commerce. *much, and more, makalé xo